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LMS Stanier 8F 2-8-0 48773
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glennr2008



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have any pictures to share of when she was repained temporarily into her Wartime guise a couple of years ago?? I never saw this one.

Was it for a gala??
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thepigface.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/html/03july_2005_7.html
http://www.thepigface.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/html/03july_2005_3.html
http://www.thepigface.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/html/summer_break_13.html
http://www.thepigface.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/html/summer_break_20.html
http://www.thepigface.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/html/6nov05_4.html
http://www.thepigface.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/html/6nov05_5.html
http://www.thepigface.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/html/santa2005_15.html
http://www.thepigface.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/html/santa2005_12.html

May be a few more on there, but a few there to be going on with. If you'd like larger versions I should be able to post them on my fotopic site.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see the website has been updated (first update since 2009) with new front page, contacts and membership form
http://www.8fsociety.co.uk/index.htm

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has it? Just visited the site and the photo, which is new, states it was taken at Bury but it does look remarkably like Bewdley. (Haven't been to Bury so I can't verify that). The news section is still dated Jan 2008 and little else has changed. Perhaps I have missed something although I imagine there is not much news to report.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldsteamer wrote:
Has it? Just visited the site and the photo, which is new, states it was taken at Bury but it does look remarkably like Bewdley. (Haven't been to Bury so I can't verify that).


Those centre-pivoted signals are definately Bewdley!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, i'm 99% sure it is Bewdley and that LMS coach also gives it away too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oliver wrote:
Yep, i'm 99% sure it is Bewdley and that LMS coach also gives it away too.


Only 99%?
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Derby4



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a slightly different tack, if you will excuse the nautical cliche, I read on another forum that one of the cylinder/piston castings from the remains of 48518, the GWR "County" donor, is destined for 48773.

Anyone know if there is any truth in that?

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LMS2968



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this was considered but not proceded with. Surprisingly, there are many variations in the cylinder castings for 8Fs, and it would be difficullt to tell if these were the same type. With this and the unknown condition of these cylinders, it was thought better to try for new. The engine also needs new tyres, and 8518's complete wheel sets were also considered and rejected for the same reasons. Similarly, the idea floated (sorry) to take one from one of the 8Fs from 'Thistlegorm' was not pursued.

This was what was reported to Society members a few years ago; unless the thinking has changed since...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A more likely possibility is the possible retrieval of suitable patterns from Turkey.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I to infer that 48773 needs a new cylinder casting or two?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One, right hand from memory. It suffered major damage a few yeas back when the front cylinder cover was knocked out, taking a triangulat piece of the cylinder with it. This was stitch welded back in place, and has given no trouble since, but must always be regarded as 'suspect'.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LMS2968 wrote:
One, right hand from memory. It suffered major damage a few yeas back when the front cylinder cover was knocked out, taking a triangulat piece of the cylinder with it. This was stitch welded back in place, and has given no trouble since, but must always be regarded as 'suspect'.
I'm open to correction but wasn't it "metal-locked" back together, not welded?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boldford wrote:
"metal-locked"


And for the uninitiated a translation?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J-Green wrote:
boldford wrote:
"metal-locked"


And for the uninitiated a translation?


I laymans terms metal locking is where the cast item is stitched back together I think?!

Why use Metal Locking instead of welding?

Metal Locking Procedure

* Leaves machine surface true and unwarped
* Readily machineable across area of repair
* No pre-heating or stress relief necessary
* Cold repair presents no fire hazard in restricted areas
* Dissimilar metals readily joined
* Eliminates high stress concentration by re-distributing such stress
* Ductility of high nickel locks used renders area more shock resistant and provides dampening effect
* High nickel content in locking material makes repair resistant to chemical corrosion and acceptable for food products


Welding Procedure

* Causes warpage and misalignment and often damages machined surface
* Machining often difficult, sometimes impossible, at fusion area
* Pre-heat and post repair stress relief usually necessary
* Involves fire hazard
* Difficult to weld dissimilar metals
* Introduces stresses and hard spots particularly at fusion area
* Causes brittleness, lowers shock resistance and dampening effect

Hence why metal locking was chosen (i think although someone with more knowledge on the subject will confirm/correct me if I am wrong)
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