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hearn_p



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a FB message earlier reporting a small fire today in Northwood Lane

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Extract from ‘Branch Lines’, the SVR Supporters newsletter, dated June 2018. [as viewed 17 June 2018].
The newsletter is downloadable from the public domain side of SVRLive
https://www.svrlive.com/bljune18

Spate of lineside fires prompts review

The Railway experienced a large number of lineside fires in May, and as a result is reviewing its locomotive operation practice, procedures and the meshing, where possible, of loco ash pans. 

The review recognises that lineside fires present a danger to locomotive crew, train crew and passengers, and in line with current procedures, should not usually be tackled by the loco crew.  

However, if a fire is of a size and location that can be easily extinguished then it can be treated by use of the locomotive hose, or by loco crew on the loco or trackside using buckets of water or extinguishers. 

This may happen only if the loco crew believe it is safe to attend the fire without undue risk to themselves, and providing the fire is on a level with the train, and does not require the loco crew to climb out of a cutting or descend an embankment. 

Station staff have also been reminded not to send out parties to treat a fire. 

General manager has announced that a special team of volunteers is to be recruited, to assist with controlled vegetation burns of the lines. The Controlled Burning team will work alongside the Permanent Way team, and training is planned for late July.

This forum thread is a snapshot extract from the main SVRLive site and is not necessarily updated to reflect change. Always refer back to and check the main web site to confirm details are still correct.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If as mentioned some engines seem to be causing fires as they progress down the line, see if this link works referencing the fire patrol at Puffing Billy in Australia. Could a trolley following service trains in high risk sections be fitted in the timetable without causing undue delays?

http://www.deejay51.com/puffing_billy_victoria.htm

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Refer to https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/viewtopic.php?t=564&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=58
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A useful fact sheet from the Met. Office.
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/fire-severity-index/documents/Weather%20and%20grass%20fires%20factsheet_tcm6-35280.pdf
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jackson_p wrote:
A useful fact sheet from the Met. Office.
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/fire-severity-index/documents/Weather%20and%20grass%20fires%20factsheet_tcm6-35280.pdf


OMG 10 separate line-side fires how long until SVR enforces a total steam ban?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GWR5764PT wrote:
OMG 10 separate line-side fires how long until SVR enforces a total steam ban?
No need at all for a steam ban; just make sure we use locos that don't cause fires [i.e. 1501, 7802 and 34027 all last week] and not locos that evidently DO [i.e. 7714 today].
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Diesel replaces steam . . .
***FULL HERITAGE DIESEL SERVICE IN OPERATION***

The weather has certainly warmed up over the last few weeks, and in light of this, we will need to operate a full diesel service to ensure that we have no fire risk, reducing the pressure on our already stretched local fire brigade.

Diesel hauled services will continue to take passengers in our comfortable historic carriages, stopping at our quintessentially English Stations, Halts and The Engine House Visitor Centre, until at least Wednesday 18th July.

There will also be a small steam locomotive located at Bewdley Station operating footplate rides on weekends.

Please continue to check for updates and additional information.

http://www.svr.co.uk/NewsItem.aspx?a=848
From SVR website this afternoon...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cherry_p wrote:
GWR5764PT wrote:
OMG 10 separate line-side fires how long until SVR enforces a total steam ban?
No need at all for a steam ban; just make sure we use locos that don't cause fires [i.e. 1501, 7802 and 34027 all last week] and not locos that evidently DO [i.e. 7714 today].


Or better still sort out the locos which are prone to causing fires so that they don't! - not rocket science but the issue gets quickly forgotten after a couple of hours of rain. Some other railways are still able to operate steam without apparent issues currently.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bradleyman wrote:
cherry_p wrote:
GWR5764PT wrote:
OMG 10 separate line-side fires how long until SVR enforces a total steam ban?
No need at all for a steam ban; just make sure we use locos that don't cause fires [i.e. 1501, 7802 and 34027 all last week] and not locos that evidently DO [i.e. 7714 today].


Or better still sort out the locos which are prone to causing fires so that they don't! - not rocket science but the issue gets quickly forgotten after a couple of hours of rain. Some other railways are still able to operate steam without apparent issues currently.


I think SVR has done all it can to avoid a steam ban and most heritage railways have to have a steam ban.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An example of another railway being affected by the dry weather.?

A large building fire in Leeds next to the Middleton railway has badly damaged one of their 'non-passenger' coaches. The MR is reported to being closed today as a consequence.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/dramatic-pictures-and-video-show-scale-of-blaze-that-took-one-hundred-firefighters-to-battle-in-leeds-1-9251932
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NBI just issued confirms that steam will return on services on Thursday.

plan is:

From Thursday 19th July 2857 (BY) & 7802 (BH) will be returned to service. The two locos will work booked steam diagrams N1 & S1 on Thursday and Friday. There are no booked additional traffic requirements.
Providing the re-introduction of steam on Thursday and Friday passes without issue, 1501 will be added to the line-up from Saturday, this will give 3 steam locos in use (2 service, 1 FE) with two trains diesel hauled.
On Sunday the 22nd of July a fourth loco, 1450, will be added, due to its restricted load capability Sunday is the first day upon which it has the opportunity to work a train within its loadings.
During the week commencing July 23rd if all services are operating satisfactorily after the weekend, 43106 will be re-entered into traffic.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There hasn't been any significant rain in the past week.
Metoffice isn't forecasting any significant rain by Thursday.
If anything, the undergrowth will be drier on Thursday than it was before the steam ban.
What's changed?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graham wrote:
There hasn't been any significant rain in the past week.
Metoffice isn't forecasting any significant rain by Thursday.
If anything, the undergrowth will be drier on Thursday than it was before the steam ban.
What's changed?
nothing really; possibly the decision to run Diesel only was to make it OUR decision whether to run steam or Diesel. Had we not done so, maybe the fire service/council could have forced us not to run steam; this would have made it more difficult to reinstate steam when we wanted to. We could actually have continued quite happily with 7802 and 2857, neither of which has caused any fires.
The one thing we probably won't do at the moment is to use 7714 unless and until it has a new ashpan, probably a flat one rather than a hopper - this was almost certainly the cause of some of the fires.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graham wrote:
There hasn't been any significant rain in the past week.
Metoffice isn't forecasting any significant rain by Thursday.
If anything, the undergrowth will be drier on Thursday than it was before the steam ban.
What's changed?


Do any of steam locos on the SVR have ashpan sprinkler systems?
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